How to spot a Thermotron– PSYCHOPATH– management training – Elaine Johnson Vp human resourse
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Thermotron former employee –
In November, he became Espec’s newest employee.
Thermotron—Dean tRipp — said thomas Bannach was a liar and a thief and a embezzler– when he worked for him–
Dean tRipp — said thomas Bannach was a liar and a thief and a embezzler– when he worked for him–
Thermotron 50 years of lies that unite perverts
Monday, September
Sociopath indicators– Thermotron sales, management , and service training
yes –
at thermotron it’s “REQUIRED” to prove you are a sociopath
at thermotron it’s “REQUIRED” to prove you are a sociopath
california former employee
This management team not only kept the employees uninformed, and misinformed, but they kept each other misinformed,
just tell me the good things happening (or the potential dirt on the underlings) I don’t want to hear about problems.
The alcoholic salesman once painted a story that dramatized this distortion.
If for instance a salesman was with as customer and jumped into their lap, kissed them on the lips shit all over themselves and the customer.
By the time the story was filtered to the president it could likely be changed to “
Well the salesman had some Mexican food for lunch and it gave him gas; when he was with the customer he farted a couple times.
It was necessary to learn the skill of
1…”memo documentation”
( at one point this escalated to something akin to memo wars)
this manager became a habitual liar and denied anything and everything; it became
necessary to document events to anticipate his lack of support in the effort minimize future problems.
( at one point this escalated to something akin to memo wars)
this manager became a habitual liar and denied anything and everything; it became
necessary to document events to anticipate his lack of support in the effort minimize future problems.
As stat ed above it became necessary to write memo’s to document any type of problem.
This manager who was in a different office instead of keeping (remote) employees better informed, covertly told his (cronies) accomplice’s to let him know if a memo’s were being sent. Of course !!
Ah yes, your humble narrator went out to California on a Pilgrimage. Searching for holy cities,
magicians, wild women, and new flavors of the “Wow “Vibes.
magicians, wild women, and new flavors of the “Wow “Vibes.
California, the Golden State.
At the time, it sort of seemed like an omen. Intuition told me that I would find ” Truth “
in California.
in California.
Nobody dies of old age there. Everyone dies prematurely on the highways, and you never know when,
Any minute of any hour some brake lights could blink, tires squeal, and the semi on your rear bumper flattens you into a gruesome road-kill in two seconds flat. It could happen tonight. You live like a hunted beast.
RAZOR-SHARP-ALERT!!!!
Everyone has their day to die on the thruway bleeding, you get your own honorary traffic jam as gawkers creep by admiring your splashed guts. And the traffic jam blocks the ambulance two miles back.
Everyone is famous for
a half an hour.
It’s like a bizarre pagan sacrifice to the Goddess of Asphalt.
No one escapes the hot black alter!
My dashboard was a good luck temple …. four inches deep in St. Christopher statues, rabbit’s feet, four leaf clovers, spirit whistles, eagle feathers, glass pyramids, magic crystals, satchels of voodoo herbs, and photos of Jesus Christ, Budda, Confucius, and Ollie North.
YOU NEED more than AAA.
California the land of promise.
As i drove along those roads I saw it for what it was …….
As i drove along those roads I saw it for what it was …….
” THE TRUTH “
” Pou-Fu Loves Sally ”
“Iluminado + Sally ”
” Abdulla Owns Sally “
The thugs hang out every where.
Nubile wenches. Boom boxes, Budweiser,
and Zig-Zag bomers. Litter everywhere..
Yes, the couple years I spent in California……thinking that this was ” IT ” was as much fun as an
…………incurable case of
…………incurable case of
jumbo Ho Chi Mihn crab lice.
Did I find the Truth??
Boy, did I !!!
I cruised right by
the bright red signs.
WRONG WAY: DO NOT ENTER.
All caution to the wind.
The Management method employed was to
1…erode the employees confidence in their work;
2…find some petty reason or fault, real or imaginary,
3… create situations where the employee may have to lie.
4…Put them under pressure so they would fail
5.. then management could supposedly
“COVER FOR THEM”.
6…This provided justification for the employee to LIE FOR The Manager;
This effort was to keep the employees:
7…confused and there for under control,
8…and with the group lying for the Manager “it was a Good day 4 him
How to spot a Thermotron– PSYCHOPATH– management training
– well thermotron
training is how to be a psychopath– Greogoy V Johnson was the pet of thomas bannach– who bragged it was ok to defraud your co workers–
Hil sybesma– said he had the same moral character– and stealing was not bad– it was working the system
Hil sybesma– said he had the same moral character– and stealing was not bad– it was working the system
thermotron former employee
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A job lost and perspective gained MIKE DRUMMOND
Monday, Mar 3, 2008
Posted on Sun, May. 27, 2007
A job lost and perspective gained MIKE DRUMMOND
Kevin Holt of Gastonia bears little likeness to the chiseled warriors depicted in Army posters.
He’s 41, heavyset and has a habit of pushing his eyeglasses to the bridge of his nose.
He’s a citizen-soldier.
The former sailor enlisted in the National Guard in July 2004 as a way to supplement his income and heed a call to service.
Last summer, between supervising a chow line at Camp Speicher outside Tikrit, Iraq, and running food convoys, Holt sat at dusty computer keyboards, hunting and pecking the answers to his online college course. He hoped a business degree would help him land a job.
Thermotron Industries, based in Holland, Mich., fired Holt in April 2005, near the height of the Bush administration’s call-up of National Guard members and just a week after Holt told the company he was being deployed to Iraq.
Holt serviced Thermotron’s environmental test chambers, which expose electronics and other devices to temperature extremes. He covered a patch of the Southeast for the privately held, mid-sized company, making about $54,000 a year.
Holt says Thermotron accused him of trying to bill the company for Yellow Pages advertising he had ordered for his side repair business. BellSouth had mailed the bill to Thermotron by mistake, an error
Holt said his boss had resolved more than eight months before.
The married father of two worked seven years for Thermotron, which has a growing defense-contract business. T
The married father of two worked seven years for Thermotron, which has a growing defense-contract business. T
he termination was an about-face for a company that two months before firing him had given Holt another glowing annual evaluation.
Fellow soldiers in the National Guard’s 50
Thermotron management training former employee — exit interview – Elaine Johnson Vp
thomas bannach thermotron management training
thomas bannach thermotron management training
Thermotron management it was me (liar) thomas bannach like to brag that he is a good liar
yes at thermotron
it is a requirement to be a good liar and deceiver– when i asked for a Job description at called that out– they started to say “YOU HAVE AN ATTITUDE PROBLEM”
2.. the next step is “YoU DON”T GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE”
3. then — they accuse you of disparaging your co -workers and that you think you are better then them
4. then they attack you by saying that your work reports are not correct
5. then your co-workers try to lead you astray to help build a “case against you”
6.. Yes at thermotron we treat you like FAMILY
thermotron we got-a- new liar running the ship
Call a spade a spade Thermotron management liar
Call a spade a spade, and you will never be disrespected by colleages as long as your facts are correct.What kind of kool-aid are you drinking?
I have the unfortunate ability to spot liars often immediately however this skill only serves to protect me.
When I say liars, I do not mean the average person who tells the occasional lie or a person who may tell more than occasional lies
but the extremely convincing, glib perfect liar who has no tells and is an expert at knowing what people want and how to give it to them.
When they are caught in a lie, they create a better lie to cover it or use their emotional power of manipulation to minimize it so those who know don’t care.
I have met several liars at the workplace, one who defrauded the company of thousands of dollars and took advantage of other co-workers
and prior to thatyet they were ignored. In in other situations outside of work and the outcome was similar. I informed all of my co-employees and the boss that he was an untrustworthy liar and I stated facts that proved my case
In in other situations outside of work and the outcome was similar.
People are animals; emotional creatures not rational and when you present the truth they ignore it.
People are animals; emotional creatures not rational and when you present the truth they ignore it.
Anyone can spot a normal liar but it is pathological or sociopathic liars that are rarely caught and unless you have evidence that can’t be ignored then don’t even bother.
You’ll look like an asshole and the liar will use their abilities to disparage your reputation.
pathological Liars n THERMOTRON former EMPLOYEE’S
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BY THERMOTRONONEDUMMY
THERMOTRON former EMPLOYEe
Pathological Liars n THERMOTRON former EMPLOYEE’S
So you think you might be working with a pathological liar?
No, you’re not.
He’s just a big jerk. Who goes to a special church.
A thief, a whore, and a liar Guess who’s fake?
The popular stereotype of a THERMOTRON pathological liar–
1..a chronic liar, deceiver,
2…who lies to get out of things, or into things;
3..who tries to con you into something, or control you;
4..who cheats on you and then denies it,
5..makes up stories about where he was– all this is wrong.
It’s malingering, but it isn’t pathological lying.
He’s a tool, but he’s not psychiatric.
Webster’s Medical Dictionary defines a “pathological liar” as
“an individual who habitually tells lies so exaggerated or bizarre that they are suggestive of mental disorder.”
or as shelly– in the parts dept at thermotron said: at thermotron drumbing out and slandering co workers is called politics– yes shelly did have a GED–
and she was a slut
Next to this definition should be this picture –
a photo of a self-important, smarmy looking,
all-too-coiffed manager or “reporter” named Thermotron “Human resourses”.
You may have noticed that a guy called Stossel is out hawking a book called
“Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity”
purporting to debunk those things.
Instead, what we see is that Stossel is spewing them –
and using his media platform as a megaphone of dishonesty.
(like any good thermotron manager)
Stossel, in many ways, is exactly why someone wrote
a new book Hostile Takeover
–
a new book Hostile Takeover
–
to strip bare the opportunists,
shills and half-wits who dominate our political debate
and show them for what they really are: pathological liars
Thermotron Ron Wiley – son of a lier – son of a pervert- son of a bitch- bannach is here
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Speaking of on the road again…….you’re heading West?
Hopefully some place more reasonable to live than California.
Personally, with the costs and taxes here in Michigan I sure wouldn’t make this my first choice.
There sure were a lot of memories from T-land.
Some good, some not.
Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of–but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from.
Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of–but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from.
I try to follow the “if you can’t say something good…” philosophy so I won’t say too much about Thermotron but the last 3 years seem to have made the problems with that management theory finally have a major effect on their business.
It surprises me that it takes so long for results to be seen from both good and bad things.
I would expect quicker results.It seems to work for us to be aware of the competition but not sell against them or even address them too much in our approach, just concentrate on the equipment and what we will do for the customer.
I have come to learn that there are some bad customers, very few actually, but it’s best just to walk away and leave those to someone else.
Of course I think we could use more service people but I can’t argue against the volume numbers I see coming in.
The trend is up but not by leaps and bounds so we’re still in a holding pattern as far as adding people. I certainly think you would be an asset.
We don’t have a wild crew (unless I’m missing something again)
but then how wild can one guy be? As we get older we get wiser.To thine own self be true.
(and to heck with the rest)I
hope the move works out well and keep in touch.Best regards,Tom—–Original Message—–
From: paul saint [mailto:p1saint@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:52 PMTo:
as always.. humble
thanks for letting me vent over these years..
But if i have ever hurt someone it was not intentional,
but interesting hil sybesma referred to the management style as “petty and vindictive..
Especially
after Daniel j o’keefe brought a law suit against him for a million dollars as recall Hil telling me.
When you leave with out his permission.
Tom bannash’s management style as dean tripp
(i believe he is 70 years old this year or 71)
said was”make it hard on him the co workers”
he wanted to build a case against every one..and
Tom bannish was very succussful in that .. without a doubt
who can really fit in there
.gosh i guess i was a square..
ot drinking all that beer at lunch and after work.
That is why tenbrink and dave durham called me squeky..
guess they were wild.. hank william’s songs..”on the road again.. i can’t wait to get on the road again”
john tenbrink singing.. kind of like his brother who died young ” the kurnal ” music man
John tenbrink even gave me a record that his brother produced.
John tenbrink even gave me a record that his brother produced.
yes john tenbrink was a wild man.
He convinced John Sherman to be an adulter and ruin his aarrage just so john tenbrink could have a drinking buddy while he was in wichita kansas at Boeing Co. .
Marty Rich.. got a taste of his style of “leading people astray” When he was working at Espec he convinced marty to cheat on his time card with him and then when behind his back and blamed marty for it..
This is what tom bannach had people do in California to help build a case against them.
John TenBrink really should have gone to prison for embezzlement when he was at Thermotron and conspiricy with intent to defraud his co-worker.
This appears to be another holland style Holland’ers, church goers particular wird people.. where dishonesty was the policy..
But you Tom Patterson.. always seemed normal..good job…
that’s why u are successful in the sales game..look at these memories..
what a waste of time..
The biggest illusion was
“I thought it was important.. and nothing the work i did there mattered at all. “
Oh i did work at Boeing and Littion as a result of doing a good job BUT
At Thermotron … Dan Okeefe.. really is a basic criminal psycopath..
it was just a monkey job..see i did have a blank on my forhead..
Tom Bannach was right .. he could lie, cheat and slander his co-workers.. and every one would go along with his lies..
Greg V Johnson a Tom Bannach pet was able to rob and steal and embezzle over 50,000 dollars and take home every thing in the office..
and Greg V Johnson and Tom Bannach drummed out and defrauded their co-workers..
Randy Bunn who hired him at Enseco.. Fired him of robbery thief and embezzlement within 3 months of employment..
But Dean Tripp said they (Thermotron) like people like that.. who are dishonest, liars, back stabbers and thieves..
Mary Rich said to me that Thermotron likes it when u tell them that
“U lied for them”
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- THErMOtRON said…
- liar thief slanderNow is it only holland michigan and the environmental chamber business that holds so many liers theves, embezzlers, back stabbing slanders, and murders??Shelly in parts and logistics,said slandering and murdering people is OK
because It’s “Just Politics”She worked with ester H.
who ron wiley said her husben died back in 89, Oh wellwith all the dishonest people u can met at thermotron if she reads the book“23 minutes in hell”Bill Wiese 23 minutes in Hell
23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese.Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, ……Purchase his complete testimony “23 Minutes in Hell”
at Amazon.com …spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesInHell_Text.htm – 103k – Cached – Similar pagesthen she and shelly, (even mark lamers, and jerry sinzack) will see where they and most of their co-workers will will spend their retirement years and years..in eternityWell guys,do u know anyone in the business that dosen’t evulate that type of criminal behavior as (normal)say fred plont says ” gee isn’;t everyone a lier and a thief!!”Greed V Johnson , tom bannish’s pet..it dosne’t matter who u lie cheat and steal and murder ..so long as u get away with it and blame it on some one else..he spent 3 years stealing , embezzling and lieing and slandering his co-workers and the customer..he spent the last year (after bannish got rid of bjarno)selling real estate and just filling out paper work at thermotron to get a payck.But Randy Bunn of “Enseco” hired him and fired him after a few months..they had to go to his house to fire him because they couldn’t find him at any of the jobs he said he was at..As i told randy bunn.. he was tom bannish’s co-consperitor and false wittness..and he was stealing the entire time he worked for tom bannishand before.and before that he was the neighborhood thief, because he showed me the houses he had broken into and robbed when i visited his home in pasadena and met his mother and sister..I think thermotrons personal dept was a bit lax..So the robbery thief and embezzlement that was“OK” at THErMOtRONwas not “OK ” at the next few companies he worked at..mitch kerr told me that he won’t find any work in that valley any more.When dan ok eef, and Roger cannary libled and slandered me when i filed a claim with the labor commision..they said that i “think i am better then these others.. !!(just because i think lying stealing and robbery is wrong..)and if i didn’t change my ways then they would “fire me”He spent the last year after bannish and rouloffs conspired to defrad the salesman Bo bjarno.just becasue he was drunk alot.. gee this was normal.when i asked bannish if he was druming out the sec joyce palmer, he lied to me, andd just to prove the point .. my replacement Harry Grace told me that joyce palmer was on his drum out list.
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employee harassment is very common at thermotron, to get people to quitVirgina Norris the final sales support person tom bannash helped drum out and quit ..she left because tom bannish and gregory v johnson told her .. they were going to harrass and drum out the other people in the office again..dean Tripp said that’s all tom bannish wanted to do as a manager .. was to “build a case against his co-workers”Dean tripp left soon after.. tom bannish’s Replacement arrived.. Berry wright..When berry wright said what do u think about dean tripp?? \i told dean lies to me and the customers, falsfies his working hours and travel hours, and he and gregg boy work on each others lies..but really“He ‘s been retired for the last 3 years .. but he likes the regular check!!he now lives in farmington NM. and is 75 and waiting to go to hell.i am surprised that some one hasn’t walked into the office of thermotron and killed any number of peoplebecause it certainly is :”OK” to murder and conspire to defraud and mis lead
your co-workers or any one .. for any reason..so it won’t surprise me when some one walkin to the company and shoots any number of those peopleDan okfe “employee attitude survey in the 1985” preceeded the biggest layoff “,where as roger cook, and others said he and everyone else didn’t know dan o keefe was going to do that..getting rid of the people who had 5 years or more so they wouldn’t get vested in any retirement.and then a month later hiring new people ..fred plont said they were just getting rid of the dead wood.it’s no wonder TP and the gang at Sexton Espec told me thatdan K brought a new and greater level of deceite to to industry.But Ron Wiley told me in 2000 or so that his father started Sexton Espec,Ron Willey told me way back when he worked in Cabinet that he was a good liar..I guess he likes to believe his dad was something he wasn’tlike most liers i met he likes to believe lies also..when he dies and go to Hell it won’t surprise me..in the bible in Revelation 18′;6 or 18All liars will find their place in the lake of fire..(even Bill and hilery clinton..) haWhen Tom Bannish was on the west coast i have never been surrounded by such a big and changing group of liars thieves and embezzlers and slanders..and when i filed a case with the labor commission ..employee harassment was intensified..Do you know the number of people that Tom Bannish harnessed and drummed out??Well tom patterson said that“either u go along with their lies or they attack you!!”it is actually going to be a good thing when theyand a number of other’are dead.. because as they demenstrated ..perverts breed perverts..perverting the truth is OKTHE SATANIC BIBLESATAN’S STANDARD — THE SATANIC BIBLEBut, there is another standard, advocated by God’s adversary, Satan.Satan has always wanted people to act in rebellion against God’s commandments.
In fact, Satanism has always advocated a complete set of rules of conduct that are opposite of Christian, or Biblical values.Clinton’s actions constitute Satanism; at this point, many people will roll their eyes upward in the head, sigh, and accuse me of being stupid, ill-informed, or a religious radical for saying such a thing.Why would they feel this way? Because they have not studied the hard, cold facts. Plus, they would naturally resist accepting such a position, because they might be challenged to change their own behavior!
Satanism is not just nasty, evil people meeting in the middle of a night in which the moon is full, chanting spells, and sacrificing animals or humans.At its foundation,Satanism is a system of morality that is the opposite of Biblical teaching.Let us examine this value system of
Satanism more closely now, quoting from an authoritative source,Anton LaVey’s “Satanic Bible”.Moral DegenerationAs before, Satanism is much more than being hooded in a coven during a Full Moon ceremony. Satanism is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, as we have already shown.Once you understand the truth that today’s America is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, you will understand that we are already prepared to accept Antichrist.
Now, we can understand the sentiment uttered above, by a college senior, that the“President’s sex life is none of our business”,or that sentiment uttered by another, who said that the President’s sex life is “irrelevant to performing his job”.
What this tells you is that these people have the same Satanic personal values as does President Clinton.Since so many Americans apparently share this value system,
the “sheep are ready to shear”, i.e., the American people are ready to be enslaved under Antichrist.
I think you have gotten the point by now.America has changed her formerly Christian values to Satanic ones, without any one understanding what has happened.But, now that you know, can you see that President Clinton is merely acting out in his life, in his body, the normal inclinations for any good Satanist?
And, can you see that those people who think what he is doing is “normal”, or who excuse it in any way, or who express their desire to sleep with the President,are also subscribing to Satanism?